Are we doomed, whatever we do?

I read a study a couple of month ago from world leading environmental groups, forgot the name, and they said that our environment has passed the "point of return". But we have a chance to slow it down and leave something for other generations to come. Not much I know but it is worth to work for this.

I don't know.

But I don't think anyone else really does either. We're new at this, and we find out things all the time that change the predictions.

That said, I agree with Marc and David. We need to do whatever we can.

We're lucky. We have the beginnings of the cure. We know what we need to stop doing and we have a pretty decent toolkit to start out with. Along with that I'd add that we know what we need to do more of.

And David brought up a good question, because the solutions do depend on the balance between our appetites and our satisfactions. I really do think it's mainly a problem of attitudes. We view a lot of pleasures as chores to be got through.

Pleasure keeps us going, it's the best tool we have. It's what advertising runs on, and that is a large part of how we got into this mess. And there is a great difference between selling pleasure and selling virtue, which is what most PSAs do at present. One small example: I find my own coffee mug a lot more pleasant than a paper cup. It doesn't burn my hands, and the coffee stays hot longer.

Well the hope dies last :))) ! J think if we make an alien contact mankind will change their habbits in major! Check socially ground or think about it, it doesn't has to be" true" ? :))) What do you think? looks bit ode

Building on Marc's thoughtful reply - maybe we need to consider carefully that this is not an all-or-nothing question. Even if we are in for great disasters, we need to do what we can to minimize those disasters and to try to preserve what is good in civilization. The problems go to the root of human desires - can we continue to have large families and elaborate lives while preserving the planet? I don't think so. In that case, how can we satisfy ourselves? This is the spiritual or ethical or psychological dimension. It needs careful consideration.

Why does it matter? Behaving ethically isn't unnecessary just because it's futile, is it? Surely we don't get off the hook that easy...

IMHO, we should be working more on 'resilience' than mitigation/adaptation (though they overlap, obviously), but the key thing is- are you going to be able to look at yourself in the mirror (assuming you've chosen not to have kids) in 15 years time...