** This meeting used voice and chat **

[12:08]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: that sounds better

[12:08]  Centrino Ducrot: ye

[12:09]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: slightly

[12:10]  You: great

[12:10]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: sounds good

[12:11]  You: yes, that's good for me

[12:12]  You: Peter, is the voice set up so only presenters can use voice right now?

[12:12]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal is Offline

[12:12]  You: i just can't figure it out

[12:13]  You: ;-)

[12:13]  You: but discioline is good

[12:13]  You: i press the button and then you don't hear me

[12:13]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal is Online

[12:13]  Michellemybelle Sittingbull: rebooting geneally fixes the isue

[12:13]  Michellemybelle Sittingbull is Online

[12:13]  Anuradha Selene: hi jeff

[12:15]  JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: hi Anuradha. Good to see you.

[12:17]  join group notice: Thanks, Sussie Smythe. You will get an Invitation soon!

[12:24]  You: that's great, that you developed such a seamless, quick system

[12:24]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: the web based system drew quite a large audience

[12:25]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: from as diverse a country as turkmenistan

[12:25]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: germany

[12:25]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: italy

[12:25]  You: yes, do you find there really is a different feel with sL vs the web chats?

[12:25]  You: i get that resistance a lot

[12:26]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: hello skuu

[12:26]  Skuu Voom: Heya.

[12:26]  You: hmm, i feel that too, but have a hard time explaining why

[12:26]  Anuradha Selene: there is a sense of meeting different personalities, not just cerebral ideas

[12:27]  Anuradha Selene: there is a kind of 'reality' because of being 3D and colours

[12:27]  Anuradha Selene: your right brain is engaged, not just your left brain

[12:27]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: it does give a great sense of community

[12:27]  Anuradha Selene: more holistic

[12:27]  You: yes, i can relate to that jeff!

[12:28]  Anuradha Selene: it is like live metaphors

[12:28]  You: "live metaphors", i like that

[12:29]  Anuradha Selene: tx

[12:30]  Anuradha Selene: engages sense of play, crosses the boundaries to the unconscious

[12:30]  You: yeah, glad someone spoke up for others of us in the US

[12:33]  Anuradha Selene: reuters,

[12:33]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: bbc

[12:34]  Anuradha Selene: 1700 blog links still now on google after 2 months!

[12:34]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: the blogosphere went off the chart

[12:34]  You: wow, great, good for SL and Bali

[12:34]  Anuradha Selene: we have the list on oneclimate.net - all the media

[12:35]  Kali Idziak is Offline

[12:35]  JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear is Online

[12:36]  Anuradha Selene: one-on-one in the presence of many - it's a powerful combination

[12:37]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: nicely put anuradha

[12:37]  Anuradha Selene: tx

[12:37]  You: yes, i really liked it

[12:38]  JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: it's working for me.

[12:38]  You: hee hee, nice flying anuradha

[12:45]  Anuradha Selene: 5.6 tonnes of carbon presumaby means around 16 tonnes of greenhouse gases - quite a bit!

[12:45]  You: nicely done!

[12:46]  JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: which part did you relate to Jessika?

[12:46]  Anuradha Selene: peter - do you want this repeated?

[12:47]  You: i liked the video overall as showing the potentials of SL and the need for alternative ways to gather

[12:47]  PeterSan Slade is Offline

[12:47]  You: is everyone done watching? that;s what i find hard about video

[12:47]  You: we are not all on the same page

[12:47]  JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: in Bali we were, which was good. it's different with the live feed because you're all watching the same thing at the same time.

[12:48]  You: right. i really like the power point tech so the presenter can start it for everyone, but videos can tell a different story

[12:48]  PeterSan Slade is Online

[12:48]  You: so nice to have both tools i guess

[12:49]  JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: exactly what I was about to say.

[12:49]  JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: hi Peter.

[12:49]  JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: good to see you again.

[12:49]  JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: Cant trust those PCs, huh?

[12:49]  Metaralph Stenvaag is Online

[12:49]  Anuradha Selene: i guess we all need to learn how to use these tools well though - peter has had 20 years of being a top BBC documentary maker so he knows what he is doing!

[12:49]  You: oh, now, now, watch those PC comments!

[12:49]  You: Ah, right

[12:50]  JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: yeah, well, I joined SL in November and ran a live intercontinental feed for two weeks in December.

[12:50]  Anuradha Selene: but i couldn't make a video that works so smoothly just ike that

[12:50]  You: i am presenting on Sunday to about 40 MBA students on the value of SL

[12:50]  JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: So I guess it's not that difficult to figure out.

[12:50]  Metaralph Stenvaag: Hello everyone

[12:50]  You: these were some great examples to have

[12:50]  You: Hi metaralph

[12:50]  Anuradha Selene: hi metaralph

[12:51]  You: for me one of the values in SL so far as been the much broader interntational connections i can make

[12:51]  Metaralph Stenvaag: Sorry I'm only catching the tail-end of this...

[12:51]  You: i feel like San Francsicso gets a little stuck in our own blissful bubble

[12:51]  Metaralph Stenvaag: thx

[12:52]  Metaralph Stenvaag: well, Vermont has that tendency as well

[12:52]  You: :-) and maybe that is also just the nature of being in school

[12:52]  JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: And here's a page with the video you just saw as well as lots of other videos, pictures, and articles we produced from Bali: http://us.oneworld.net/section/us/virtualbali

[12:52]  You: great, thanks. i am going to direct people to that

[12:52]  You: Peter made a comment earlier on how to connect all the different networks

[12:53]  You: facebook, website, etc

[12:53]  You: i am wondering about that too

[12:53]  JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: great. and feel free to reference this to your MBA friends this weekend, Jessika.

[12:53]  Anuradha Selene: the main thing for me at virtual bali was hearing from the negotiator for the small pacific islands, which were getting flooded

[12:53]  PeterSan Slade: yes - any ideas welcome

[12:53]  Anuradha Selene: it was so immediate. and she was coming to speak to us int eh middle of th negotations. istory in the making!

[12:53]  Anuradha Selene: history, i mean

[12:54]  You: Anuradha, what made that feel different through from hearing her on the news say? Was it that more personal connection?

[12:55]  Anuradha Selene: reading a paper or watching TV vs actually chatting to the person yourself who was running in and out of the negotiations - so personal, not just a grey suit that you ahve no connection with

[12:55]  You: hmm, i have a mic, but when i hold the talk button down no one seems to hear me

[12:55]  Metaralph Stenvaag: Excuse me, I don't want to interrupt this discussion (because you have all made your introductions), but I would be interested in IMs from each of you identifying who you are. (I'm the director of the new Marlboro MBA in managing for sustainability)

[12:55]  You: yep

[12:56]  Metaralph Stenvaag: I'm hearing very intermittent audio - not able to understand

[12:56]  Metaralph Stenvaag: like a bad Skype day

[12:56]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: then we were recording all that and it all went on youtube

[12:57]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: www.youtube.com/oneworldtv

[12:57]  PeterSan Slade is Offline

[12:57]  Anuradha Selene: yes, jeff

[12:57]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: yes

[12:57]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: i can

[12:57]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: your very clear

[12:57]  You: I can hear you all too, but can't seem to speak

[13:01]  You: hi, i can't get the darn voice working

[13:01]  Metaralph Stenvaag: i just hear chirps... ;-(

[13:01]  You: now, i hae lost audio too, but I am Jessica, a mba sustainability student in San Francisco US

[13:01]  JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: well I was just asking people to introduce themselves if they want -- in tecxt or voice

[13:01]  You: i also am most interested in how to use SL for collaborations and info sharing that would be difficult otherwise

[13:02]  You: hee hee, no, i think i am good

[13:02]  You: go ahead

[13:02]  JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: i can hear you anuradha

[13:02]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: yes i can

[13:02]  Metaralph Stenvaag: I am Ralph Meima, program director of the Marlboro MBA in Managing for Sustainability (Brattleboro, Vermont, USA)

[13:02]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: hi ralph

[13:02]  Metaralph Stenvaag: ty Jeffrey

[13:03]  You: Anuradha, do you know the Pachama Alliance?

[13:03]  Anuradha Selene: no - ls tell me

[13:03]  You: they are active in the US, bringing the voices of the "south"

[13:03]  You: meaning the indigenous in the Amazon, to us in the North

[13:04]  You: more to climate change, and around the idea

[13:04]  You: that the 2 lifestyles are clashing

[13:04]  You: yes, i will send you some info

[13:05]  You: but the oneclimate website group info does not necessarily flow into the SL group, right?

[13:07]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: yes launched very soon

[13:07]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: thank you anuradha

[13:08]  You: i am thinking i could try blogging on each of these meetings and posting into the oneclimate group and then try to reference that to get people interested

[13:08]  You: Hmm, that makes sense Jeff

[13:09]  JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: that's a great idea (on blogging these meetings into OC.net), Jessika.

[13:09]  You: anuradha, that is a good way to prep people for 2L too

[13:09]  You: i think, like Jeff's girlfriend experienced

[13:09]  You: they are sometimes caught offguard by the very spontenity

[13:10]  You: once i realixed that was ok, i relaxed a bit and didn't worry about mistakes

[13:11]  You: i hvae been thinking it would be itneresting to develope some sort of competition/game around dealing with your carbon footprint

[13:12]  You: and thinking in SL you could really experience having to drag all your trash say

[13:12]  You: around with you until you figure out some different ways of handling it

[13:12]  Metaralph Stenvaag: we are doing that in our program

[13:12]  You: i don't know how hard that is to program for.

[13:12]  You: ah waht are you doing ralph with this idea?

[13:12]  You: water, yes!

[13:13]  You: yes, and seeit contrast to what others use

[13:13]  You: LOL

[13:14]  You: right, that's one image i was thinking too

[13:14]  You: they could have a team and have to get a certain amount of stuff done

[13:14]  You: with aonly using so much carbon,

[13:14]  In Kenzo is Online

[13:14]  You: so they figure out to carpool, or use something different to get it done

[13:15]  You: ah, right! yeah

[13:16]  You: that's great. I need to leave shortly, but this was really interesting

[13:16]  You: to hear the behind the scenes

[13:16]  You: ah, your doing great

[13:17]  You: oh, be careful what we say....

[13:17]  You: yes, i do have time for the next few months to work on something and so if others have the programming expertise, maybe we can start playing with this

[13:17]  Telitha Merlin is Online

[13:18]  You: exactly!

[13:18]  You: i don't think she is hearing those compliments

[13:18]  You: i will remember that

[13:19]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: right guys i have to go

[13:19]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: sorry

[13:19]  Anuradha Selene: fla - lots of big compliments to you!

[13:19]  You: ok, so shall we plan on next week? I believe a stuent from marlboro will present

[13:19]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: its valentines day

[13:19]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: see you next time

[13:19]  Anuradha Selene: bye jamie

[13:19]  Metaralph Stenvaag: .... sorry, I was afk.. We have just launched a course (Climate Change) in which students will eventually be measuring their GHG footprints and trading offsets/emissions permits through a similated market - I'm happy to put you in touch with the faculty member if you are interested

[13:19]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal: bye bye

[13:19]  Wakeyjamie Zuhal is Offline

[13:20]  Anuradha Selene: maybe they would look at putting this on onecliate.net?

[13:20]  Metaralph Stenvaag: That is certainly a possibility

[13:20]  Anuradha Selene: great

[13:21]  You: the more intereactivity and cause/effect sort of experiences people can have the better

[13:21]  Anuradha Selene: i need to go now but it has been really fun, thank you, jesska for setting this up

[13:21]  Metaralph Stenvaag: likewise

[13:21]  Anuradha Selene: and to peter and jeff for the preso

[13:21]  You: by Anuradha, thanks for all your info

[13:21]  You: yes, thank you all

[13:21]  Metaralph Stenvaag: take care, all - see you next week

[13:21]  You: happy valentine's day!

[13:22]  Anuradha Selene: you too!

[13:22]  Anuradha Selene: bye

[13:22]  Metaralph Stenvaag is Offline